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LA NOCHE DE LOS CUCHILLOS LARGOS 2
19 de Octubre de 1940
Tras el devastador ataque contra el Convoy SC-7, llego de Lorient la noticia de que un nuevo convoy rapido se estaba acercando casi siguiendo la misma ruta que el anterior. Los submarinos que aun tenian torpedos se vieron reforzados por el U38 de Liebe y el U47 de Prien. Este ultimo consiguio un primer contacto con el objetivo, manteniendolo hasta que sus camaradas estuvieron en disposicion de atacar. El mismo esquema de la noche anterior se reproduciria nuevamente, pero incrementado al contener esta vez el convoy un mayor numero de buques cisterna, que esparcirian su combustible en llamas y sus negras columnas de humo a lo largo de varias millas. Por esa misma causa la perdida de vidas humanas fue tambien superior. Doce buques del HX-79 serian hundidos antes del amanecer, momento en el que los submarinos alemanes dejarian el combate ante el refuerzo de unidades de escolta enviadas desde inglaterra para evitar daños aun mayores. La suma de las dos noches seria el mayor holocausato sufrido por los ingleses en el mar, en tan solo dos acciones casi conjuntas, durante toda la contienda.La noche de los cuchillos largos habia finalizado para gloria de la Ubottswaffe y amargo pesar para la marina britanica.
Jugadores DD: 2 Destructores del tipo Hunt1
Jugadores U-Boot: 2 Submarinos del tipo 7B
Misión: Ataque
OBJETIVOS PRINCIPALES:
Los destructores deben proteger el convoy.
Los submarinos deben evitar que al menos 22.000 Tns de transportes lleguen a su destino.
Buena suerte a todos.
APÉNDICE TÉCNICO:
Ajuste de las opciones (para el HOST):
Marcar las casillas de todas las opciones excepto “HF-DF disabled” y “RADAR disabled”.
- Tiempo: High_Clouds
- Hora de inicio: 20:30 am
COMBINACIONES DE JUGADORES VALIDAS:
1 sub vs 2 Dd y 2 subs vs 2 Dd. Esta misión no se puede jugar de forma oficial en 1 vs 1.
FIN DE LA MISION:
La misión finaliza en el mismo instante que se de cualquiera de estas circunstancias:
a) Hundimiento de los dos subs
b) Hundimiento de los dos Dd comandados por humanos
c) A las 22:30 horas de tiempo del simulador.
d) Los subs se encuentran a más de cinco millas de cualquier mercante y solicitan el fin de la partida
e) Por acuerdo de todos los jugadores
USO DE LA COMPRESION DE TIEMPO:
Se recomienda una compresión de tiempo de 4x durante aproximadamente 10 minutos. El uso de compresiones mayores puede alterar el desarrollo de la partida.
Los subs deben bajar la compresión a 1x tras conseguir contacto visual o tener contacto sonar a distancias inferiores a 8000 m y siempre 5 minutos antes de realizar un ataque.
Los Dd deben bajar la compresión a 1x tras conseguir contacto visual, contacto en el sonar, o contactos a menos de 10000 yardas y siempre antes de realizar un ataque.
NORMAS ESPECIFICAS DE LA MISION:
Los escoltas no pueden alejarse mas alla de 5 millas naúticas del convoy. Si dentro de esta distancia, tienen contacto con un submarino, pueden alejarse hasta un máximo de 10 millas del convoy para atacar al submarino. Nunca podrán rebasar las diez millas.
Si un comandante de submarino se encuentra a más de 5 millas naúticas del convoy y es detectado, puede solicitar que el Dd se retire y en ese momento la partida finaliza para el submarino.
OBJETIVOS PUNTUABLES (bonus):
No hay bonus en esta mision.
CONVOY SEGURO
Se considera convoy seguro si al menos el 60% de los mercantes permanecen operativos al finalizar la mision.
ASIGNACIÓN DE HUNDIMIENTOS
Si un barco tocado por un torpedo se hunde por colisionar con otro buque de superficie, su hundimiento se asignará al submarino que tocó a dicho mercante.
Sólo se considera "fuego amigo" a los hundimientos por colisión de buques que no han sido previamente alcanzados por torpedos.
Si un escolta es hundido por cruzarse voluntariamente con un torpedo disparado a un mercante, su hundimiento se asignará a "fuego amigo" para no penalizar al submarino con la pérdida del tonelaje mercante que pueda tener hasta ese momento.
Traducción de Briefing. Misión 1941A
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Gracias.
THE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES 2
After the devastating assault against the Convoy SC-7, I come from Lorient the news from that a new rapid convoy was approaching almost following (continuing) the same route that the previous one.
The submarines that even (tenian torpedoes) saw reinforced by Liebe's U38 and Prien's U47.
This one I finalize (consiguio) the first contact with the aim (lens), supporting it until his (her) comrades were in disposition to attack.
The same scheme of the previous night reproduciria again, but increased when this time contains the convoy major number of noses cistern, that esparcirian his (her,your) fuel in flames and his (her,your) black columns of smoke along several miles.
For the same reason the loss of human lives was also a Superior. Twelve noses of the HX-79 (serian) sunk (destroyed) before the dawn, moment in that the German submarines (dejarian) the combat before the reinforcement of units of escort sent from inglaterra to avoid hurts (damages) even major.
The serious sum of two nights the major holocausato suffered by the english men in the sea, in only two almost joint actions (shares), during the whole contest.
The night of the long knives (habia) finished for glory of the Ubottswaffe and bitter sorrow (despite) for the British sea-coast.
Players DD: 2 Destroyers of the type Hunt1
Players U-Boot: 2 Submarines of the type 7B
Mission: Assault
PRINCIPAL AIMS (LENSES):
The destroyers must protect the convoy.
The submarines must prevent 22.000 Tns of transport at least from coming to his(her,your) destination.
Good luck to all.
TECHNICAL APPENDIX:
Adjustment of the options (for the HOST):
To mark the cabins of all the options except " HF-DF disabled " and " RADAR disabled ".
- Time: High_Clouds
- Hour of beginning: 20:30 am
PLAYERS' COMBINATIONS YOU VALIDATE:
1 sub vs 2 Dd and 2 subs vs 2 Dd. This mission cannot play of official form in 1 vs 1.
END OF THE MISSION:
The mission finishes in the same instant that of any of these circumstances:
a) Collapse of the two subs
b) Collapse of two Dd commanded by human beings
c) At 22:30 of time of the malingerer.
d) The subs are to more than five miles of any merchant ship and request the end of the game
e) For agreement of all the players
USE OF THE COMPRESSION OF TIME:
There is recommended a compression of time of 4x during approximately 10 minutes. The use of major compressions can alter the development of the game.
The subs must lower the compression to 1x after obtaining visual contact or having contact sound to distances lower than 8000 m and always 5 minutes before realizing an assault.
The Dd must lower the compression to 1x after obtaining visual contact, I contact in the sonar, or contacts to less than 10000 yardsticks and always before realizing an assault.
PROCEDURE YOU SPECIFY OF THE MISSION:
You escort them they cannot move away beyond 5 miles (naúticas) from the convoy. If inside this distance, they have contact with a submarine, they can move away up to a maximum of 10 miles of the convoy to attack to the submarine. They will never be able to exceed ten miles.
If a commander of submarine is to more than 5 miles naúticas of the convoy and is detected, it (he,she) can request that the Dd moves back (retires) and in this moment the game finishes for the submarine.
AIMS PUNTUABLES (bonus):
(She) is not bonus in this mission.
SURE CONVOY
It is considered to be a sure convoy if at least 60 % of the merchant ships remains operative on having finished the mission.
ASSIGNMENT OF COLLAPSES
If a ship touched by a torpedo sinks for clashing with another nose of surface, his (her,your) collapse will be assigned to the submarine that touched to the above mentioned merchant ship.
Only fire one thinks " friend " to the collapses for collision of noses that they have not been before reached by torpedoes.
If an escolta is sunk(destroyed) for crossing voluntarily with a torpedo shot at a merchant ship, to itself there will assign his (her,your) collapse fire to " friend " not to (penalize) to the submarine with the loss of the merchant tonnage that could have up to this moment.
The men are slaves of his(her,your) words and owners of his (her,your) silences.
Hz Or 999 Wolfpack GO: 347
Commission of Organization of the Campaigns Geweih
Kapitanleutnant
Lieutenant Senior. DD Legazpi. Desron 59. 4th fleet Eagle League.
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Con los verbos encuentro dificultad. Las palabras entre parentesis, quieren decir que no estoy seguro de su inclusión o traducción. Es ahí donde mas necesito (necesitamos) ayuda.
Gracias.
THE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES 2
After the devastating assault against the Convoy SC-7, I come from Lorient the news from that a new rapid convoy was approaching almost following (continuing) the same route that the previous one.
The submarines that even (tenian torpedoes) saw reinforced by Liebe's U38 and Prien's U47.
This one I finalize (consiguio) the first contact with the aim (lens), supporting it until his (her) comrades were in disposition to attack.
The same scheme of the previous night reproduciria again, but increased when this time contains the convoy major number of noses cistern, that esparcirian his (her,your) fuel in flames and his (her,your) black columns of smoke along several miles.
For the same reason the loss of human lives was also a Superior. Twelve noses of the HX-79 (serian) sunk (destroyed) before the dawn, moment in that the German submarines (dejarian) the combat before the reinforcement of units of escort sent from inglaterra to avoid hurts (damages) even major.
The serious sum of two nights the major holocausato suffered by the english men in the sea, in only two almost joint actions (shares), during the whole contest.
The night of the long knives (habia) finished for glory of the Ubottswaffe and bitter sorrow (despite) for the British sea-coast.
Players DD: 2 Destroyers of the type Hunt1
Players U-Boot: 2 Submarines of the type 7B
Mission: Assault
PRINCIPAL AIMS (LENSES):
The destroyers must protect the convoy.
The submarines must prevent 22.000 Tns of transport at least from coming to his(her,your) destination.
Good luck to all.
TECHNICAL APPENDIX:
Adjustment of the options (for the HOST):
To mark the cabins of all the options except " HF-DF disabled " and " RADAR disabled ".
- Time: High_Clouds
- Hour of beginning: 20:30 am
PLAYERS' COMBINATIONS YOU VALIDATE:
1 sub vs 2 Dd and 2 subs vs 2 Dd. This mission cannot play of official form in 1 vs 1.
END OF THE MISSION:
The mission finishes in the same instant that of any of these circumstances:
a) Collapse of the two subs
b) Collapse of two Dd commanded by human beings
c) At 22:30 of time of the malingerer.
d) The subs are to more than five miles of any merchant ship and request the end of the game
e) For agreement of all the players
USE OF THE COMPRESSION OF TIME:
There is recommended a compression of time of 4x during approximately 10 minutes. The use of major compressions can alter the development of the game.
The subs must lower the compression to 1x after obtaining visual contact or having contact sound to distances lower than 8000 m and always 5 minutes before realizing an assault.
The Dd must lower the compression to 1x after obtaining visual contact, I contact in the sonar, or contacts to less than 10000 yardsticks and always before realizing an assault.
PROCEDURE YOU SPECIFY OF THE MISSION:
You escort them they cannot move away beyond 5 miles (naúticas) from the convoy. If inside this distance, they have contact with a submarine, they can move away up to a maximum of 10 miles of the convoy to attack to the submarine. They will never be able to exceed ten miles.
If a commander of submarine is to more than 5 miles naúticas of the convoy and is detected, it (he,she) can request that the Dd moves back (retires) and in this moment the game finishes for the submarine.
AIMS PUNTUABLES (bonus):
(She) is not bonus in this mission.
SURE CONVOY
It is considered to be a sure convoy if at least 60 % of the merchant ships remains operative on having finished the mission.
ASSIGNMENT OF COLLAPSES
If a ship touched by a torpedo sinks for clashing with another nose of surface, his (her,your) collapse will be assigned to the submarine that touched to the above mentioned merchant ship.
Only fire one thinks " friend " to the collapses for collision of noses that they have not been before reached by torpedoes.
If an escolta is sunk(destroyed) for crossing voluntarily with a torpedo shot at a merchant ship, to itself there will assign his (her,your) collapse fire to " friend " not to (penalize) to the submarine with the loss of the merchant tonnage that could have up to this moment.
The men are slaves of his(her,your) words and owners of his (her,your) silences.
Hz Or 999 Wolfpack GO: 347
Commission of Organization of the Campaigns Geweih
Kapitanleutnant
Lieutenant Senior. DD Legazpi. Desron 59. 4th fleet Eagle League.
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THE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES II
October 19th, 1940
After the devastating attack against convoy SC-7, from Lorient HQ did arrive the news that a new fast convoy was approaching following nearly the same course as the previous one. The submarines that still had torpedos were reinforced with Liebe's U-38 and Prien's U-47. Prien got a first contact with the convoy, shadowing it while the wolfpack assembled to a suitable attack position. The history of the previous night was to be repeated, this time adding black colums of smoke and flames across miles of sea due to a higher percentage of tanker ships in the convoy. Due to this, loss of life was also higher.
Twelve ships of HX-79 would be sunk before sunrise, when the wolfpack of german submarines broke contact and scaped the surface reinforcements rushed in from England to avoid further losses.
In just two nights, in two very close actions, the british had suffered their most staggering defeat at sea. The night of the long knives was over leaving a victorious ubootswaffe and a badly shaken british navy.
DD players: 2 type Hunt1
U-boot players: 2 submarines type VIIB
Mission: Convoy attack.
MAIN OBJECTIVES:
Destroyers must protect the convoy.
Submarines must avoid that at least 22.000 tns of merchant shipping does not arrive to their final destination.
Good hunt to you all.
TECHNICAL APENDIX:
Options Setting (for HOST PLAYER)
All options selected except "HF-DF Disabled" and "RADAR disabled"
- Weather: High_Clouds
- Start time: 20:30 pm
VALID PLAYER COMBINATIONS
1 sub vs 2 Dd y 2 subs vs 2 Dd. This mission can not be oficially played on 1 vs 1.
END OF MISSION:
Mission ends at the very moment in which any of the following cases is met:
a) Both submarines are sunk
b) Human controlled Dd are sunk
c) At 22:30 pm Simulator time.
d) Submarines break contact and are beyond 5 miles from any merchant and ask for end of game.
e) By common agreement of all players.
USE OF COMPRESSED TIME
It is recommended to use a x4 time compression for about 10 minutes. Use of higher compression times may affect the game.
Submarines must reduce time compression to 1x after visual contact or hidrophone contact below 8000 mts. And always, at least 5 minutes before any torpedo launch.
Dd's must reduce time compression to 1x after visual or sonar contact below 10000 yards and always before launching an attack
SPECIFIC MISSION RULES:
Scort ships can not go beyond 5 nautical miles from the convoy. If within this distance they have a contact with a submarine, they can proceed until a maximum distance of 10 miles of the convoy. In no case they will get more far away than ten miles.
If a submarine commander is detected at more than 5 nautical miles from the convoy, he can ask the Dd to withdraw and but the game will be over for the submarine.
BONUS TARGETS
There are no bonus targets in this mission.
SAFE CONVOY
It is considered that the convoy is safe if after the battle, at least 60%of the merchants is operative.
SINKING ASIGNMENT
If a merchant hit and damaged by a torpedo sinks due to further damage caused by collision with another surface ship, the sinking will be asigned to the submarine that launched the torpedo that damaged the ship.
It is considered "friendly fire" any sinking caused exclusively by collision of undamaged surface ships
If an escort ship is sunk for voluntarily positioning his ship in the way of a torpedo intended for a merchant, his sinking will be considered as "friendly fire" in order not to penalyze the submarine with the loss of tonnage that may have achieved up to that moment.
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THE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES II
October 19th, 1940
After the devastating attack against convoy SC-7, from Lorient HQ did arrive the news that a new fast convoy was approaching following nearly the same course as the previous one. The submarines that still had torpedos were reinforced with Liebe's U-38 and Prien's U-47. Prien got a first contact with the convoy, shadowing it while the wolfpack assembled to a suitable attack position. The history of the previous night was to be repeated, this time adding black colums of smoke and flames across miles of sea due to a higher percentage of tanker ships in the convoy. Due to this, loss of life was also higher.
Twelve ships of HX-79 would be sunk before sunrise, when the wolfpack of german submarines broke contact and scaped the surface reinforcements rushed in from England to avoid further losses.
In just two nights, in two very close actions, the british had suffered their most staggering defeat at sea. The night of the long knives was over leaving a victorious ubootswaffe and a badly shaken british navy.
DD players: 2 type Hunt1
U-boot players: 2 submarines type VIIB
Mission: Convoy attack.
MAIN OBJECTIVES:
Destroyers must protect the convoy.
Submarines must avoid that at least 22.000 tns of merchant shipping does not arrive to their final destination.
Good hunt to you all.
TECHNICAL APENDIX:
Options Setting (for HOST PLAYER)
All options selected except "HF-DF Disabled" and "RADAR disabled"
- Weather: High_Clouds
- Start time: 20:30 pm
VALID PLAYER COMBINATIONS
1 sub vs 2 Dd y 2 subs vs 2 Dd. This mission can not be oficially played on 1 vs 1.
END OF MISSION:
Mission ends at the very moment in which any of the following cases is met:
a) Both submarines are sunk
b) Human controlled Dd are sunk
c) At 22:30 pm Simulator time.
d) Submarines break contact and are beyond 5 miles from any merchant and ask for end of game.
e) By common agreement of all players.
USE OF COMPRESSED TIME
It is recommended to use a x4 time compression for about 10 minutes. Use of higher compression times may affect the game.
Submarines must reduce time compression to 1x after visual contact or hidrophone contact below 8000 mts. And always, at least 5 minutes before any torpedo launch.
Dd's must reduce time compression to 1x after visual or sonar contact below 10000 yards and always before launching an attack
SPECIFIC MISSION RULES:
Scort ships can not go beyond 5 nautical miles from the convoy. If within this distance they have a contact with a submarine, they can proceed until a maximum distance of 10 miles of the convoy. In no case they will get more far away than ten miles.
If a submarine commander is detected at more than 5 nautical miles from the convoy, he can ask the Dd to withdraw and but the game will be over for the submarine.
BONUS TARGETS
There are no bonus targets in this mission.
SAFE CONVOY
It is considered that the convoy is safe if after the battle, at least 60%of the merchants is operative.
SINKING ASIGNMENT
If a merchant hit and damaged by a torpedo sinks due to further damage caused by collision with another surface ship, the sinking will be asigned to the submarine that launched the torpedo that damaged the ship.
It is considered "friendly fire" any sinking caused exclusively by collision of undamaged surface ships
If an escort ship is sunk for voluntarily positioning his ship in the way of a torpedo intended for a merchant, his sinking will be considered as "friendly fire" in order not to penalyze the submarine with the loss of tonnage that may have achieved up to that moment.
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Yo haría unas sugerencias al estupendo trabajo de Kron.
The submarines that still had torpedoes.
U-boot players: 2 type VIIB submarines.
Submarines must avoid that at least 22.000 tns of merchant shipping does arrive to their final destination.
Good hunt to all of you.
d) Submarines are beyond 5 miles from any merchant and ask for end of game.
Dds must reduce time.
In no case they will get far away than ten miles.
It is considered that the convoy is safe if after the battle, at least 60 % of the merchants are still operative.
Kron161 escribió: The submarines that still had torpedos...
U-boot players: 2 submarines type VIIB...
Submarines must avoid that at least 22.000 tns of merchant shipping does not arrive to their final destination...
Good hunt to you all...
d) Submarines break contact and are beyond 5 miles from any merchant and ask for end of game...
Dd's must reduce time...
In no case they will get more far away than ten miles...
It is considered that the convoy is safe if after the battle, at least 60% of the merchants is operative...
The submarines that still had torpedoes.
U-boot players: 2 type VIIB submarines.
Submarines must avoid that at least 22.000 tns of merchant shipping does arrive to their final destination.
Good hunt to all of you.
d) Submarines are beyond 5 miles from any merchant and ask for end of game.
Dds must reduce time.
In no case they will get far away than ten miles.
It is considered that the convoy is safe if after the battle, at least 60 % of the merchants are still operative.
