CONCURSO O POSICION
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Vas bien, pero hay detalles que no cuadran. Repásalo.
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En mi foto se les ve a los presidentes entre los dos cañones de la izquierda, sentados en sus sillas. Están celebrando misa en ese encuentro. El barco en que se celebra la misa no es el Augusta
El barco que se ve al fondo iba de escolta y tampoco es el Augusta. En el Augusta, si no me equivoco viajó el presidente americano.
Chuchill sí que hizo el viaje a bordo del Prince of Wales. Toda una aventura para un primer ministro en plena guerra.
La misión del SH2 se titulaba, obviamente, Los Presidentes.
El barco que se ve al fondo iba de escolta y tampoco es el Augusta. En el Augusta, si no me equivoco viajó el presidente americano.
Chuchill sí que hizo el viaje a bordo del Prince of Wales. Toda una aventura para un primer ministro en plena guerra.
La misión del SH2 se titulaba, obviamente, Los Presidentes.
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La Regia Marina sí fué bien utilizada y con imaginación eh? Lo que sucede es que fueron buques sin radar ni telémetro de ninguna clase, no tenían aviación naval, los británicos eran expertos en combate nocturno, escasez crónica de combustible (al comienzo de la guerra tenían 1.880.000 Tn de crudo, para poco más de un año de guerra, luego dependencia absoluta del crudo alemán)) y Mussolini al declarar la guerra de improviso no dió tiempo a ponerse a salvo a casi un tercio de su flota mercante que cayó en manos de enemigo. Recomiendo de veras el libro La guerra naval en el Mediterráneo, de Luis de la Sierra, un maestro.Kamenz escribió:El Vittorio Veneto fue más famoso porque se vio envuelto en más acciones, creo, y por eso hay quien llama a la clase Vittorio Veneto.
Osea, que dá igual como les llamasen, fueron unos buenos buques usados sin imaginación. Barcos sin suerte.
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The first “summit” meeting between President Roosevelt and Prime
Minister Winston Churchill at Argentia on Placentia Bay, Newfoundland, was
shrouded in a secrecy far greater than was to occur with the later meetings. As
a result, official pronouncements and newspaper reporting were often at variance
with the events as they were actually taking place. The synchrony sets out in
tabular form the chronology of what was happening with respect to the several
parties, juxtaposed with what was being reported.
The synchrony is preceded by an introductory section which contains
material that provides a background frame of reference for the conference. It
also contains some discussion of the events that were occurring then.
Because the Joint Declaration - what later came to be known as the
Atlantic Charter - was one of the most important results of the conference, the
appendix contains the several draft versions as well as the final text.
When the President took a cruise on the USS Potomac, it was normal for
the USS Potomac to be followed by another ship which would carry staff,
reporters, etc. together with escorting destroyers. In the case of the Atlantic
Conference the following ship was the USS Calypso. In following the movement
of the USS Potomac in the synchrony it should be noted that such movement
also includes the movement of the USS Calypso and the escort, although no
specific mention is made of them.
Also, because the heavy cruiser USS Augusta did not have sufficient
accommodations for all of the American participants, the other participants were
placed on the USS Tuscaloosa, a heavy cruiser like the USS Augusta. Again, in
following the movement of the USS Augusta in the synchrony it should be noted
that such movement also includes the movement of the USS Tuscaloosa (and
an accompanying destroyer escort), although no specific mention is made of
them either.
http://www.usspotomac.org/education/doc ... t_1941.pdf
Minister Winston Churchill at Argentia on Placentia Bay, Newfoundland, was
shrouded in a secrecy far greater than was to occur with the later meetings. As
a result, official pronouncements and newspaper reporting were often at variance
with the events as they were actually taking place. The synchrony sets out in
tabular form the chronology of what was happening with respect to the several
parties, juxtaposed with what was being reported.
The synchrony is preceded by an introductory section which contains
material that provides a background frame of reference for the conference. It
also contains some discussion of the events that were occurring then.
Because the Joint Declaration - what later came to be known as the
Atlantic Charter - was one of the most important results of the conference, the
appendix contains the several draft versions as well as the final text.
When the President took a cruise on the USS Potomac, it was normal for
the USS Potomac to be followed by another ship which would carry staff,
reporters, etc. together with escorting destroyers. In the case of the Atlantic
Conference the following ship was the USS Calypso. In following the movement
of the USS Potomac in the synchrony it should be noted that such movement
also includes the movement of the USS Calypso and the escort, although no
specific mention is made of them.
Also, because the heavy cruiser USS Augusta did not have sufficient
accommodations for all of the American participants, the other participants were
placed on the USS Tuscaloosa, a heavy cruiser like the USS Augusta. Again, in
following the movement of the USS Augusta in the synchrony it should be noted
that such movement also includes the movement of the USS Tuscaloosa (and
an accompanying destroyer escort), although no specific mention is made of
them either.
http://www.usspotomac.org/education/doc ... t_1941.pdf
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Re: CONCURSO O POSICION
La foto de la misa, creo que es abordo del HMS Prince of Wales, por los 4 cañones con pintura de camuflaje (aunque solo se ven tres) el de detrás no tengo ni zorra, probablemente, como dice Siu, sea el USS Tuscaloosa.
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Correcto. Con respecto al barco del fondo, tengo otro nombre. Tengo que comprobarlo.Cpt_Morgan escribió:La foto de la misa, creo que es abordo del HMS Prince of Wales, por los 4 cañones con pintura de camuflaje (aunque solo se ven tres) el de detrás no tengo ni zorra, probablemente, como dice Siu, sea el USS Tuscaloosa.
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No es el Tuscaloosa:
El barco del fondo, por su porte, parece un acorazado: ¿cuál?
El barco del fondo, por su porte, parece un acorazado: ¿cuál?
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No es el Augusta:
El barco del fondo tiene dos torres de dos caños, no de tres.
El barco del fondo tiene dos torres de dos caños, no de tres.
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Otra toma más clara:
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http://untreaty.un.org/cod/avl/ha/cun/photo03.html
Segun esta pagina el primero es el principe de Gales. Y el de atras...
Segun esta pagina el primero es el principe de Gales. Y el de atras...
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http://www.newgenevacenter.org/06_Histo ... arter.html
The Atlantic Charter was negotiated at the Atlantic Conference (codenamed RIVIERA) by British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, aboard warships in a secure anchorage at Argentia, Newfoundland and was issued as a joint declaration on August 14, 1941. Roosevelt had travelled to Argentia aboard the heavy cruiser USS Augusta, escorted by the battleship USS Arkansas, the cruiser USS Tuscaloosa and the destroyer USS McDougal, while Churchill made the journey across the Atlantic aboard the battleship HMS Prince of Wales.
battleship USS Arkansas
The Atlantic Charter was negotiated at the Atlantic Conference (codenamed RIVIERA) by British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, aboard warships in a secure anchorage at Argentia, Newfoundland and was issued as a joint declaration on August 14, 1941. Roosevelt had travelled to Argentia aboard the heavy cruiser USS Augusta, escorted by the battleship USS Arkansas, the cruiser USS Tuscaloosa and the destroyer USS McDougal, while Churchill made the journey across the Atlantic aboard the battleship HMS Prince of Wales.
battleship USS Arkansas
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Churchill observando un buque. ¿Tal vez el Augusta?
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